Q: Your books are rich in history, especially the history of Detroit. Are you
a history buff?
A: I am very interested in history. I think it is
one of the proper subjects of fiction, particularly the novel. In lots of ways, I think
the novel can do a better job of history than history text books do. Without being
absolutely chained to factual data as far as what happens when and to whom and so forth,
sometimes you can depict in a more true way what happened at a certain time.
Q: DEADMAN and DEAD FOLKS seem like they could have been one
complete novel. Did you plan it this way?
A: By the time I got to the end of HIT ON THE
HOUSE, I knew these guys were heading for Montana where Joe Service had a place. I figured
DEADMAN and DEAD FOLKS would be the next couple of books, but I didn't know yet exactly
what form it would take. I thought this would be an opportunity in which I could get
Mulheisen out of Detroit. It was successful to a degree but not totally successful. I
think a lot of readers were disappointed that they didn't have more of the urban quality
of the previous crime novels.
Q: Was it a nice change of pace?
A: That's the way I saw it and I didn't see any
reason why I wouldn't be able to still maintain a Detroit interest. But I remember when
Carl Navarre, then president and editor of Atlantic Monthly Press, was alarmed because he
had bought these books and thought they were going to be Detroit crime novels. But
suddenly they were all in Montana. Actually, there isn't enough in Montana to sustain a
crime series, I don't think. Maybe there is? I felt like I had to maintain that Detroit
connection.
Q: Will Mulheisen ever return to Montana?
A: I think he might come back. I left that open
purposefully because I think there are some things that he can do. I've got to consider
Mulheisen's future as a policeman. He may not have much of a future in Detroit from what I
can see. I've been spending more time in Detroit lately. I am very happy for Detroit's
resurgence, but it may not go well for Mulheisen. There might be another policeman that
could step in there.
Q: A new character?
A: Yes, a new character. Or say an amplified older
character. I was thinking of maybe Leonard Stanos. Stanos is a hard ass and he's a wacko,
besides he is sort of like Grootka. I don't know, Stanos may come out of it, but there
could be another guy. I have to see what develops in the new book.
Q: You have said before that in your books, "Everything
can't be explicated or solved, much of it is left to the reader to sort out and
imagine." Explain this.
A: I think that's the way it has to be. I'm very
bored by literature that tells us stuff. I think that's probably always a mistake, that
authoritative manner, because lots of things can happen. Things rarely happen exactly the
way we would predict them. It is particularly ludicrous in a genre that is classically
realistic for it to suggest that at some given point -- let's call it point Z -- that
everything is wrapped up. That was the classical form, that British novelists in
particular used, to call all of the characters together in the library and the detective
would explicate the whole thing. Well, a lot of people objected to that because it seemed
like some sort of bizarre urge towards tidiness. They had to tie up all of the loose ends
and make sure that the reader could now turn off the light and go to sleep. In a realistic
medium it was foolish. That is not the way it is, crimes aren't particularly solved. In
fact in one of the earlier Mulheisen novels he talks about Jimmy Hoffa: "Everybody
knows what happened to Jimmy Hoffa but no one knows what really happened to Jimmy
Hoffa."
Q: Solving what really happened to Jimmy Hoffa is the basis
of your latest Mulheisen novel, "MAN WITH AN AXE." Why did you want to write
about Detroit's most famous unsolved murder?
A: First of all, I have a deep and abiding interest
in labor history. I think it is an important topic for Americans, particularly in the
nineties and the century to come, because we are facing a lot of the same problems that
were actually resolved in the thirties and forties. People shed real blood to resolve
these issues and now the solutions have been allowed to dissipate and the old problems are
right back. So, we need to look at the history of labor unions. I used to actually belong
to Hoffa's local many years ago in my Detroit working days. I still have my withdrawal
card from that union, so I am kind of interested in Hoffa. He was a brilliant personality.
For this crime not to have been solved is really bizarre, I think. So I took it on,
somewhat tongue in cheek, I have to admit. Man With An Axe purports to give us a
description of the last days of Jimmy Hoffa. I have no doubt that it didn't happen quite
like that. I was talking to this labor lawyer, a friend of mine in Detroit, and this other
guy was joining us in conversation and he said to my friend, "Well what do you think
happened to Jimmy Hoffa?" My friend said, "I think Jon more or less has the
right idea. Something like that probably happened." Now this is a guy who has his ear
to the ground and understands what is going on. I think I am fairly close to what
happened, maybe not the actual events, but something like that happened to Hoffa.